From the very beginning it has been designed and optimized for use in embedded devices. AES67 is an open interoperability standard for transmitting high performance digital audio over IP networks.
It defines a common base where various vendors previously used to communicate with their own, often competing protocols. So that equipment from different vendors can communicate with each other. Until now two types of AES67 solutions could be found on the market.
Many companies offer a hardware based solution. Either as an integrated chip or a specialized board with some form of dedicated hardware FPGA. This is to meet the strict synchronization and latency requirements in high performance audio networks.
Hardware based solutions offer the best performance but for the price of specialized and costly hardware. The second type of solutions available are purely software solutions — virtual sound cards, for Windows or Mac OS. Their main goal is the integration of a personal computer into the audio network. To use as an audio source, as a monitoring console, for recording, etc.
The available virtual sound cards often suffer from high latencies or uncontrollable jitter induced by the limits of the operating system.
Therefore cannot be used in embedded devices. Similarly, on Linux there are existing frameworks capable of decoding AES67, like e. However due to its design and high demands on memory and CPU it is not suitable for embedded use if very low latency audio needs to be played.
In Your Audio Systems we recognized the weaknesses of the existing solutions and designed purely software based solution, which takes the advantages of both worlds. That means low memory and CPU requirements, while keeping the high performance. Even on a low-end hardware it is capable of decoding with the overall end-to-end latency of only few milliseconds. Because it uses just a few per-cent of the CPU power, there is plenty of room left for other applications.
This therefore makes it a perfect fit even for use-cases where power or cost are a concern. Skip to content. What is AES67? Our Approach In Your Audio Systems we recognized the weaknesses of the existing solutions and designed purely software based solution, which takes the advantages of both worlds.
Get to know the features. Contact us for more details. Key Features.Dante defaults to unicast, supports multicast as an efficiency improvement if there are multiple listeners for a stream. AES67 mode is multicast by default, I think can support unicast if both devices advertise that they support unicast mode.
Drumfix has made a kernel patch for us using Motu AVB devices and it is currently being tested so there is hope Linux AVB networking will soon be a great combo. For those who are interested: This is not set up for computer to computer links and is specific to ravenna HW in many ways.
That is cool they finally announced it publicly. I have had a private copy for a while, but I never managed to acquire appropriate hardware to make use of it. I did however verify it could be detected in a Ravenna patching application running on a Windows computer. If someone can make use of this and is running 4. I am toying with the idea of making an implementation of the closed source configuration tool what they call the Butler daemon based just on the interfaces in the GPL driver so that the driver can have a GPL configuration tool to go along with it.
I would gladly accept a loan of any Ravenna hardware to help in testing that. You can use quite a few different NICs as a PTP master, but you give up some accuracy if using software timestamp, so you would likely want hardware timestamping of PTP packets. You could in principle run software timestamps everywhere well, not in an audio interface, but everywhere you are using audio software with the trade off that you will need to use higher latency settings to accommodate any offset or shifting offsets between endpoints.
By the way, if anyone is interested in experimenting with Ravenna compatible hardware, this is the lowest cost I have found so far. Those are in the same price range as the Hasseb devices.
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Speaking of Dante, is Seablade around? I think Audinate is kind of sniffy about people implementing Dante drivers without paying for a license though, so it would have to be usable in AES67 mode. The whole implementation requires a master clock is all. I guess what I mean is that it is not a full featured end point. That is definitely the lowest cost aes67 end points I have seen anywhere.
Product 64 would add two mics at a time.
AES67 + JACK
However, unlike the first one does not have a built in switch. I will go look at the Audinate offerings next. You can run them standalone and control routing with the Dante Controller. Just be aware that you must have a PTP master clock available for them to lock to.Share this post:.
GStreamer is great for all kinds of multimedia applications, but did you know it could also be used to create studio grade professional audio applications? For example, with GStreamer you can easily receive a AES67 stream, the standard which allows inter-operability between different IP based audio networking systems and transfers of live audio between profesionnal grade systems.
Receiving an AES67 stream requires two main components, the first being the reception of the media itself. In other words, this means it can be received with a simple pipeline, such as "udpsrc! There isn't much more needed, as this pipeline will receive the stream and introduce 5ms of latency, which, as long as the network is uncongested, should already sound great.
The second component is the clock synchronization, one of the important things in Pro Audio. The goal of this component is for the sender and the receiver of the audio to use the same clock so that there aren't any glitches introduced by a clock running to fast or too slow. What it does not describe however, is how to transfer this file from the sender of the audio to the receiver, which is left to an application specific system. Assuming that we can just download the file, there is another very useful GStreamer element that can help us, called "sdpdemux".
This is not really a demultiplexer like mp4demux or oggdemux, it is instead an element that reads a SDP file and then creates the appropriate sources based on the information it contains. Basically, this means if the sdp file if downloaded, it can be "played" like any other media file with "gst-play GStreamer is a powerful multimedia framework that can be easily used to create powerful profesionnal multimedia applications.
Let's talk and see how we can help! Gordon Luk: Apr 27, at AM. Like AES67 topic very much. Reply to this comment. Is there any updates on having a SIP solution with gstreamer? SIP is a pretty awful protocol, so all implementations are pretty nasty and we generally declared it to be outside the scope of GStreamer. So normally what you would do is use an existing SIP stack such as pjsip or sofiasip and then do the media streaming with GStreamer.
That said, I'm not sure exactly how AES67 does that as the spec is not publicly available which makes Open Source implementations difficult. SIP is not awful protocol, it is an extensible messaging protocol And I have the same experience with other SIP libraries.Bearcat M. SOUL Search everywhere only in this topic. Advanced Search. Classic List Threaded.
AVB on linux: drivers? This is a dream come frue for me. What i'm confused by, is where the drivers are. Moshe Werner. Re: AVB on linux: drivers? Sorry to disappoint but I did not really try the AVB port other than for controlling the device, which is done via standard ethernet.
Markus Seeber. In reply to this post by Bearcat M. Len Ovens. I don't know everything about either one The second thing is that to make good use of AVB requires the right ethernet card as well. It is possible to use AVB to transfer between two linux computers jack to jack but requires manual setup to get it going.
I don't know how well setting up AVB end device to linux is supported. It is possible to use Linux to connect two AVB boxes.
There is nothing from AVB to alsa at this time I am aware of. Most network audio in Linux and windows and MacOS for that matter is done by getting a "Sound card" that looks to the OS like an ordinary audio interface, but connects to network audio boxes. Fernando Lopez-Lezcano. In short, where does one get Ravenna drivers? Thanks, -- Bearcat M. My audio goes in and out via USB. You will usually tell them Which Distribution and which Kernel you use and they will send you a compiled kernel module, in other word the driver is proprietary.
For example fouraudio provides a PCIe card and proprietary linux drivers. I was aware that avb is not AES67, but i meant that more like inclusion. What Linux needs for network audio interfaces, is a GUI that "does it all".
Some thing that ties the jack dummy backend to the ethernet cards timer. Something that shows all available streams and allows the user to connect a remote stream to the linux box and open it as a client in jack and connect it to whatever jack port the user asks. Ya, USB mics are a thing.We require a developer to write software that can run on a Raspberry Pi to allow it to receive AES67 streams and output to the audio output of the device.
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Get paid for your work. It's free to sign up and bid on jobs. SilentStarMagic hello,sir. Link Accounts. I am a new user I am a returning user.Search Member List Calendar Help. Threaded Mode Linear Mode. Post: 1. I came across this today, while trying to get my Presonus Audiobox working on AVLinux first time to try linux for audio. I can't afford any Dante hardware yet, but think the concept is wonderful. No joy on my 44VSL yet Post: 2. I have the VSL in my mixing room Can you find your VSL when you type lsusb in a terminal?
If yes, just start qjackctl, set it to the VSL as interface and start jack from there. Make sure there's no jack instance running when you do this, otherwise it won't come up with your settings.
Post: 3. Max, thanks for the tip. I'll try it over our holiday. Post: 4. Quote: I know that Audinate says they have no interest in supporting linux, so this seemed an interesting find I don't know for sure, but at least the big picture should be clearer soon.
Post: 5. I doubt they will compile their virtual sound card for Linux But hey, it's over 2 years now that I beta-tested it under Windows and nagged about Linux Post: 6. So if your Dante hardware is compatible with AES67 it can probably be a substitute. That may allow an easy bridge to Dante since they are finally AES67 compatible.
Post: 7. Post: 8. Looks awesome except "Linux ALSA driver as a binary" - I'd really want them to incorporate this into the mainline kernel.
Post: 9. But it is a step into the right direction. Dante and Jack will be a dream team. NetJack is a bit fiddly. Post: There is also the uTrack24 with the optional AEScard. Quite interesting product, i don't know about quality though.
English American. Threaded Mode Linear Mode Dante with linux. BruceGA Member. Posts: 95 Joined: Apr Reputation: 2. Dante with linux I came across this today, while trying to get my Presonus Audiobox working on AVLinux first time to try linux for audio.AES67 is an open standard for transmitting high performance digital audio over IP networks.
The standard was developed by the Audio Engineering Society and builds on existing open protocols. It defines a common protocol suite providing standard means for clock synchronization, quality of service and transport, which allows interoperability between various IP-based audio networking systems.
It allows to implement embedded audio devices with synchronization and latency approaching the performance of hardware based decoders, purely in software. A software implementation of AES67 not just provides the full flexibility of customization. It also can significantly reduce the cost and complexity of new hardware designs. Already existing designs can be equipped with AES67 decoding capabilities with a simple software update. Linux is the most common operating system in embedded devices.
Although software packages able to decode AES67 streams on Linux are available, their performance is not reaching the needs of the professional audio and they demand too many resources. The Orchestra software has been designed from the very first moment for use in professional embedded audio devices.
While AES67 defines the audio protocol in great detail, it leaves the management and control protocols open. Your Audio Systems builds on more than 12 years of expertise in the audio over IP industry. Skip to content. ISE — save the date!